Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Debut Week Ratings Comparison
SECOND EDIT: After the break we have the comparisons for Hidden Agenda, like promised. It’s more brutal than Carnie Wilson. It’s downright ugly.
Edit: Fixed dates
Thanks to the great people at PIFeedback, we’ve got a comparison between Carnie Wilson: Unstapled in each of its time slots and the show that was there on the week of January 4th, the last published. If you follow us on Facebook or Twitter you saw that Carnie Wilson debuted to a .3 rating. We had messed up ratings we previously published, and we apologize. The .3 was correct, but we just wanted verification before we publish again. Aren’t you glad GSN replaced so many other shows, including completely axing some classics for all of you out there that like those older shows, for this? Unstapled dropped in every single time slot. Some slots it was in the hundreds of thousands lost. We’ll have a comparison for Hidden Agenda soon.
Look, I’m not trying to be an ass to GSN or Carnie. I like Carnie. I like some people there and I’m guessing there’s one or two left there that can tolerate me. But every single person, critic or fan, repeatedly warned you about these shows, how they did in the past, and why they would not work. And we were right. I didn’t figure we would be this right, but we were right. I heard from the same sources at the same place that gave me these ratings that the numbers tumbled in week two. What’s going to happen after that? I’d be reconsidering Life At Stake and the Bunco show. Your viewers have spoken. You do well in the game show department. That’s a clear fact. Catch 21 and Newlywed Game are fun and popular. Even the shows that were on the failed Big Saturday Night were really good, but just got messed up because of the programming. You can expand the brand to other games. We saw that during the rebranding a few years back. Solitary will be looking for a new home soon. The Poker and Blackjack shows were successes. This is not the way, though. History has shown that whenever we try to distance ourselves from the genre, we end up crawling back to it, clinging on to whatever viewers we can.
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Wednesday 1:00AM 80,000
Jeopardy! Wednesday 1:00AM 188,000 Viewers Lost 108,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Wednesday 10:00PM 183,000
1 VS 100 Wednesday 10:00PM 556,000 Viewers Lost 373,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Saturday 10:30PM 203,000
1 VS 100 Saturday 10:30PM 445,000 Viewers Lost 242,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Tuesday 10:30PM 195,000
1 VS 100 Tuesday 10:30PM 385,000 Viewers Lost 190,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Friday 11:00AM 73,000
Catch 21 Friday 11:00AM 108,000 Viewers Lost 35,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Thursday 11:00PM 142,000
Deal or no Deal Thursday 11:00PM 368,000 Viewers Lost 226,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Sunday 11:30AM 79,000
Catch 21 Sunday 11:30AM 283,000 Viewers Lost 204,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Tuesday 12:00AM 165,000
Millionaire Tuesday 12:00AM 316,000 Viewers Lost 151,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Saturday 12:30PM 96,000
1 VS 100 Saturday 12:30PM 353,000 Viewers Lost 257,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Saturday 2:00AM 103,000
Deal or no Deal Saturday 2:00AM 219,000 Viewers Lost 116,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Wednesday 2:00PM 47,000
$100,000 Pyramid Wednesday 2:00PM 262,000 Viewers Lost 215,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Thursday 3:00PM 116,000
Lingo Thursday 3:00PM 268,000 Viewers Lost 152,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Friday 3:30PM 211,000
Lingo Friday 3:30PM 385,000 Viewers Lost 174,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Sunday 4:00PM 186,000
Newlywed Game Sunday 4:00PM 499,000 Viewers Lost 313,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Tuesday 4:00PM 136,000
Family Feud Tuesday 4:00PM 363,000 Viewers Lost 227,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Sunday 4:30PM 189,000
Catch 21 Sunday 4:30PM 379,000 Viewers Lost 190,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Saturday 5:00PM 180,000
Millionaire Saturday 5:00PM 337,000 Viewers Lost 157,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Thursday 8:00PM 361,000
Family Feud Thursday 8:00PM 449,000 Viewers Lost 88,000
Carnie Wilson: Unstapled Friday 8:30PM 270,000
Family Feud Friday 8:30PM 505,000 Viewers Lost 235,000
Hidden Agenda Wednesday 1:30AM 52,000
Hollywood Squares Wednesday 1:30AM 143,000 Viewers Lost 91,000
Hidden Agenda Friday 10:00PM 157,000
1 VS 100 Friday 10:00PM 459,000 Viewers Lost 302,000
Hidden Agenda Monday 10:00PM 92,000
1 VS 100 Monday 10:00PM 434,000 Viewers Lost 342,000
Hidden Agenda Wednesday 10:30PM 75,000
1 VS 100 Wednesday 10:00PM 556,000 Viewers Lost 481,000
Hidden Agenda Sunday 11:00AM 106,000
Newlywed Game Sunday 11:00AM 328,000 Viewers Lost 222,000
Hidden Agenda Friday 11:30AM 23,000
Wheel of Fortune Friday 11:30AM 133,000 Viewers Lost 110,000
Hidden Agenda Saturday 11:30PM 115,000
Catch 21 Saturday 11:30PM 250,000 Viewers Lost 135,000
Hidden Agenda Thursday 11:30PM 79,000
Deal or No Deal Thursday 11:30PM 368,000 Viewers Lost 289,000
Hidden Agenda Saturday 12:00PM 116,000
1 VS 100 Saturday 12:00PM 353,000 Viewers Lost 237,000
Hidden Agenda Tuesday 12:30AM 116,000
Millionaire Tuesday 12:00AM 316,000 Viewers Lost 200,000
Hidden Agenda Saturday 2:30AM 83,000
1 VS 100 Saturday 2:30AM 174,000 Viewers Lost 91,000
Hidden Agenda Wednesday 2:30PM 41,000
Chain Reaction Wednesday 2:30PM 305,000 Viewers Lost 264,000
Hidden Agenda Tuesday 3:00PM 184,000
Lingo Tuesday 3:00PM 271,000 Viewers Lost 87,000
Hidden Agenda Thursday 3:30PM 61,000
Lingo Thursday 3:30PM 365,000 Viewers Lost 304,000
Hidden Agenda Friday 4:30PM 193,000
Family Feud Friday 4:30PM 395,000 Viewers Lost 202,000
Hidden Agenda Sunday 5:00PM 74,000
Millionaire Sunday 5:00PM 395,000 Viewers Lost 321,000
Hidden Agenda Saturday 5:30PM 169,000
Millionaire Saturday 5:30PM 337,000 Viewers Lost 168,000
Hidden Agenda Thursday 8:30PM 202,000
Catch 21 Thursday 8:30PM 574,000 Viewers Lost 372,000
Average Lost 234,333
Doing my math, that's 3,653,000 viewers lost over a series of 19 shows for an average of 192,263 per show. Granted, that's less than a .1 rating, but considering GSN's high-numbered cable status that's a tough hit to take.
Aww, Alex… you read my column! But seriously…
You know, I don't like to see anyone lose their job, but seriously… how many times are you going to put your hand in the fire before you realize that fire hurts?
With BS(N) and now this… Someone needs to go. And quickly.
Aww, Alex… you read my column! But seriously…
You know, I don't like to see anyone lose their job, but seriously… how many times are you going to put your hand in the fire before you realize that fire hurts?
With BS(N) and now this… Someone needs to go. And quickly.
Wow! These ratings are horrible. I mean, you replace a recognizable rerun with something barely anybody wants to watch? Wow…real smart, GSN.
Wow.
I'll see the two "Wows" and raise you a HOLY (S-BOMB)!
Like I and others have said, if it didn't work with Naturally Stoned, why would it work with Unstapled? Clearly, history seems to be repeating itself.
I'll see the two "Wows" and raise you a HOLY (S-BOMB)!
Like I and others have said, if it didn't work with Naturally Stoned, why would it work with Unstapled? Clearly, history seems to be repeating itself.
Doing my math, that's 3,653,000 viewers lost over a series of 19 shows for an average of 192,263 per show. Granted, that's less than a .1 rating, but considering GSN's high-numbered cable status that's a tough hit to take.
Doing my math, that's 3,653,000 viewers lost over a series of 19 shows for an average of 192,263 per show. Granted, that's less than a .1 rating, but considering GSN's high-numbered cable status that's a tough hit to take.
As the movie's title said, 'reality bites!' When will GSN remember it's core audience and put GAME SHOWS back on the lineup? Carnie was good in Wilson Phillips, and (even though I never have watched it) is probably pretty good (but not as good as Bob Eubanks) on "The Newlywed Game" – keep her private life just that, or put it on VH-1, as she is known more as a music artist than a game show celebrity!
As the movie's title said, 'reality bites!' When will GSN remember it's core audience and put GAME SHOWS back on the lineup? Carnie was good in Wilson Phillips, and (even though I never have watched it) is probably pretty good (but not as good as Bob Eubanks) on "The Newlywed Game" – keep her private life just that, or put it on VH-1, as she is known more as a music artist than a game show celebrity!
Wow… ratings are down at literally every time slot. Those numbers kinda speak for themselves. Remember, the network is GSN (Game Show Network), not GSRN (Game Show and Reality Network)! I hope some GSN people are reading this.
Also, stop showing DoND four hours a day. Two is sufficient, and give us some different game shows with the other two hours please.
Actually, that's close to a .2, but a solid .1.
I am surprised to see 1 vs. 100 (a re-run) is nearly pulling a .5 in primetime.
Actually, that's close to a .2, but a solid .1.
I am surprised to see 1 vs. 100 (a re-run) is nearly pulling a .5 in primetime.
Holy s***!!! 7,871,000 less people for those time periods over the reruns normally in those slots? Have they really thought these things through before scheduling them or are they just throwing ideas up against the wall and seeing if something will stick? I mean, nothing's gonna stick if the ratings for everything else are subpar too. Remember when this network used to regularly get 0.7's in the neilsen ratings in the age of Russian Roulette and Cram? Remember when the Press Your Luck scandal documentary got about 1.2 in the ratings? GSN killed their network, and there's not way to bring it back.
Holy s***!!! 7,871,000 less people for those time periods over the reruns normally in those slots? Have they really thought these things through before scheduling them or are they just throwing ideas up against the wall and seeing if something will stick? I mean, nothing's gonna stick if the ratings for everything else are subpar too. Remember when this network used to regularly get 0.7's in the neilsen ratings in the age of Russian Roulette and Cram? Remember when the Press Your Luck scandal documentary got about 1.2 in the ratings? GSN killed their network, and there's not way to bring it back.
Sounds like GSN has been alienating its core audience alright. They're not alone. Cartoon Network has been doing the same thing–and again, the problem has been reality shows. There is an old saying: "Shoemaker, stick to your last". If GSN does not stick to its last, we may live to see its finish!
Sounds like GSN has been alienating its core audience alright. They're not alone. Cartoon Network has been doing the same thing–and again, the problem has been reality shows. There is an old saying: "Shoemaker, stick to your last". If GSN does not stick to its last, we may live to see its finish!
Oh, my! Now that the Hidden Agenda numbers are posted, this one jumped out at me: Wed. 2:30 Chain Reaction slot lost 87% of its audience! I did not understand the logic in preempting every show down the schedule to shoehorn in Carnie/Agenda. THAT is no way to build an audience — by deceiving those who actually make your channel an appointment and pulling a switcho-changeo on them. We have seen the relentless promotion. We will watch if we want to.
41,000?! That's the population of a small town!
Oh, my! Now that the Hidden Agenda numbers are posted, this one jumped out at me: Wed. 2:30 Chain Reaction slot lost 87% of its audience! I did not understand the logic in preempting every show down the schedule to shoehorn in Carnie/Agenda. THAT is no way to build an audience — by deceiving those who actually make your channel an appointment and pulling a switcho-changeo on them. We have seen the relentless promotion. We will watch if we want to.
41,000?! That's the population of a small town!
I didn't need the numbers to remind me, but there they were, as I expected. There's an old saying that goes "He who never learns fron their mistakes are doomed to repeat history" or something like that. GSN did it in 2003 or 2004 with Naturally Stoned & does it again in 2010 with Carnie/Hidden Agenda. I'd be interested to see what the Hub offers me. Untill then, it's syndie/CBS daytime & no GSN.
I didn't need the numbers to remind me, but there they were, as I expected. There's an old saying that goes "He who never learns fron their mistakes are doomed to repeat history" or something like that. GSN did it in 2003 or 2004 with Naturally Stoned & does it again in 2010 with Carnie/Hidden Agenda. I'd be interested to see what the Hub offers me. Untill then, it's syndie/CBS daytime & no GSN.
And GSN continues its' fall from grace. (Or is it rise to disgrace?)
In a fair and just organization, such a failure would lead to a couple of repeat offenders getting fired (I'm looking at you, David Fool's-Goldhill and Kelly No-Goode). Time to throw those bums out and replace them with someone better (preferably no one with NBC Universal credentials).
And GSN continues its' fall from grace. (Or is it rise to disgrace?)
In a fair and just organization, such a failure would lead to a couple of repeat offenders getting fired (I'm looking at you, David Fool's-Goldhill and Kelly No-Goode). Time to throw those bums out and replace them with someone better (preferably no one with NBC Universal credentials).
I truly don't forsee them "getting the message" until it's too late. If anything I expect they'll blame the poor ratings on "mean and nasty internet people who didn't give them a chance"
I truly don't forsee them "getting the message" until it's too late. If anything I expect they'll blame the poor ratings on "mean and nasty internet people who didn't give them a chance"
And yet, GSN is doing it anyway. Why? I don't know.
And yet, GSN is doing it anyway. Why? I don't know.
I doubt it. They've already cut some of their timeslots. What surprises me more is how much worse Hidden Agenda is doing than Unstapled. Even with the hidden camera business, I still consider it a game show, like Nickelodeon's You're On! and I thought it would have performed better.
I doubt it. They've already cut some of their timeslots. What surprises me more is how much worse Hidden Agenda is doing than Unstapled. Even with the hidden camera business, I still consider it a game show, like Nickelodeon's You're On! and I thought it would have performed better.